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Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:34 pm
by Gwyn
As for the stabilizer being fully forward I seem to recall it stopped ice getting into the elevator hinge assembly when de-icing. On the 737/747 this was the normal practise. An aircraft on the ground with just fin fuel loaded is going nowhere but downwards. Am I correct in thinking the aircraft concerned was written off?

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 9:45 pm
by petet16
It was written off, Bae quoted to repair it, but it was deemed too expensive, so ended up being stripped for spares.

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2014 10:44 am
by Gwyn
With over 2 tonnes of fuel in the fin and drop of, maybe, 20ft or so I am not surprised that a lot of damage was caused. I would imagine that the rear pressure bulkhead could well of been damaged. Extraordinary error by the refuelling crew.

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:12 pm
by Stewart
Was it not normal operating procedure to use the tail fin tank first, and never to land with it anything but empty?

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 8:28 pm
by Gwyn
Stewart,

It was normal procedure in BA/BOAC to use the fin fuel as a very basic form of C.of G. balancing to maybe get a few more miles to the gallon. It was usually transferred to the main tanks about 2 hrs before landing.

Gwyn

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2014 10:32 pm
by bobisqueen
I believe there was more than 2t in the fin, far closer to it's max of 5t. Although a error by the defuelling crew, there were other factors that the investigation took into consideration.

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:44 am
by vololiberista
bobisqueen wrote:I believe there was more than 2t in the fin, far closer to it's max of 5t. Although a error by the defuelling crew, there were other factors that the investigation took into consideration.
The BOAC BA manuel quotes the the fin tank must have a max of 50kgs upon landing. So if the a/c was being defuelled why did it have much more? So the last crew probably forgot to empty it into the centre tank in flight!

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:21 am
by Jelle Hieminga
See second e-mail under 'remarks' here: http://www.vc10.net/History/incidents_a ... ber%201997

Re: BBC1 - Real Lives Reunited - G-ASGN

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:40 pm
by bobisqueen
The aircraft had been refuelled to max to check for any fuel tank leaks prior to maintenance input. It certainly didn't land with like that!