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Re: Request total hours all airframes GJD,RAF,Brooklands,New

Post by tash794 » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:19 pm

The F700C is just the cover. The F707A's which should be towards the front is the Maintenance Work Order Log where all the faults (snaggs) are recorded. You will find the hours on there BUT it will not accurately reflect the true airframe hours.

Go to around the middle of the '700' and look for the F725. That's the Fatigue Log. The printed form should be green, however I did see black photocopied ones towards the end. There you will find the latest flying hours, landings (full stop and rollers) flight durations blah blah blah. The captain or Air Eng will fill this out after the flight, usually after they have broken it! ;-)

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Post by EGDGZTCW » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:34 am

Thanks tash, I now understand that the cover is Form 700C. Not sure where in the 700 my colleague found the total hours but I will follow your guide and double check. We did find this though.....

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.... was a pencil sharpener that important then ?

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Post by Jelle Hieminga » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:48 am

I guess it was in 1962. And if (as I'm guessing) it is listed as a piece of installed equipment then you need to account for its absence.
Buttons . . . check. Dials . . . check. Switches . . . check. Little
colored lights . . . check.

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Post by Jelle Hieminga » Thu Mar 13, 2014 12:28 pm

Here you go, one Vickers Pencil Sharpener:
PencilSharpener.jpg
But then I need to add this too, from the 26 March 1964 issue of Flight International:
Pencilsharpener_p471_26march1964.jpg
Buttons . . . check. Dials . . . check. Switches . . . check. Little
colored lights . . . check.

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Post by forester » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:51 pm

EGDGZTCW wrote:Had a look at the F700 today and found ..... 11/9/13 total 48,351.05 hrs.
By way of comparison between the civil and military work of the VC10:

Before disembarking from G-ARVE after bringing it home on its final flight to be scrapped at Heathrow, I wrote in my logbook that it had flown 36254.13 hours and accumulated 13460 landings.

This was in 1974.

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Post by Jelle Hieminga » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:03 pm

Thanks for adding that bit of information forester! I'd like to add those hours and landings to the page about the airframe but ideally, I'd like to add the date of its last flight too. Would you happen to have that?
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colored lights . . . check.

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Post by forester » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:15 pm

23 October 1974

We operated Tehran - Beirut - London.

These were still very civilised places in those days

- except London! (Three Day Week, IRA bombings on M62, Guildford, Houses of Parliament, Tower of London, Woolwich ...)

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Post by Jelle Hieminga » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:49 pm

Done: http://www.vc10.net/Airframes/cn_807__garve.html

Many thanks! Now for the other 50 or so..... :wink:
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Post by 1103 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:29 pm

The pencil sharpener was not on the 1957 spec and it is not on this Super FE's table

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It might have been a operator mod. I remember seeing one on 7Q-YKH

Just think in 50 years they have gone to a pencil sharpener on the Flt Dk to tablet computers

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Post by Jelle Hieminga » Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:29 pm

1103 wrote:and it is not on this Super FE's table
But it might be, the pencil sharpener folds down and hides down the side of the table... :wink:
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Re: Request total hours all airframes GJD,RAF,Brooklands,New

Post by 1103 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 11:48 pm

Jelle Hieminga wrote:
1103 wrote:and it is not on this Super FE's table
But it might be, the pencil sharpener folds down and hides down the side of the table... :wink:
Ahh...

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Re: Request total hours all airframes GJD,RAF,Brooklands,New

Post by Andover115 » Tue Mar 18, 2014 6:22 pm

In regards to flying hours of all of the VC10s I will make some enquiries from a former employer who may have some data.

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Post by Stewart » Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:15 pm

I'm wondering about this, as IIRC the BOAC airframes were 're-lifed' while still in BOACs hands, this was alleged to have occurred at 60,000 hours (this may be erronious but seem to have been the figure and came to 10% of the cost of re-lifeing a 707 at 30,000 hours) and G-ASGM went though this, Does that mean it's hours became zero again at that point? Originally of course the VC-10s airframes 'life' was 'on condition' as as such had no 'life' this may still be the case

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Re: Request total hours all airframes GJD,RAF,Brooklands,New

Post by vc10boy » Mon Mar 24, 2014 11:39 am

just had a text from the ever helpful Robin Voice at Brooklands..two more airframe final hours..

A40AB......41,889
ZA150.......40,432

Robin says the paperwork for GARVM is still at Cosford,so if some kind soul at Cosford could have a quick look?..or maybe send paper work onto Brooklands?..intresting to note the ex east african ZA150 has roughly 10,000 less hours then the stored BA super fleet had in 1981..
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Re: Request total hours all airframes GJD,RAF,Brooklands,New

Post by EGDGZTCW » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:03 pm

So then, are these hours the absolute total from production or were these EAA aircraft zero'd at conversion ?

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